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That was odd...


Well, Hyperion was interesting, sure enough, but also pretty damn annoying since the end doesn't really resolve anything and has "Wizard of Oz" content besides. Also, it's chock-full of unreliable narrators, so only God and Dan Simmons know WTF is really going on. It interested me enough that I'll more than likely read the sequel, although I gather I won't find the answers I'm looking for there either. We'll see.

Related: Definitely going to the PRSFS meeting tonight to talk about SF. What a concept! A SF fan club that actually talks about SF! MADNESS!

Sort of related: Since my sponsor into Goonfleet had the bad grace to not only quit but get himself banned from the forums, I am casting about for a new sponsor and thinking glumly that I just might have to fork over my $10 to Lowtax and start posting at somethingawful.com. thaadd thinks I ought to do an ask/tell thread about Anime Detour. It could happen. UPDATE: It did happen.

Definitely related: Previous post about the League of Wonder provoked a lot of comments (props to burnunit for dropping by and responding) and if it does nothing more than put the LoW on notice that there's a lot of fans suspicious of the concept, then good. I don't know how much time I want to spend on the subject, since as I explained, whatever they do will have minimal impact on me since it's all going to happen in the Ninth Circle of HellMinnesota and not down here. Still, as one of the founders of Detour I feel some responsibility to keep an eye on "my" convention and occasionally stick my oar in, especially when major stuff like this heaves into view.

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redmartel
Jul. 10th, 2009 06:10 pm (UTC)
I really liked Hyperion as well. Will you be reading the rest of the series?
wombat_socho
Jul. 10th, 2009 06:18 pm (UTC)
I think I pretty much have to at this point.

Also, POST MOAR. How the hell are you doing these days?
Inquiring minds want to know!
burnunit
Jul. 10th, 2009 09:11 pm (UTC)
Putting on notice? I see it as a reminder, definitely. This is a suspicious culture, and that's an instinct which has served us well many times. Not at all times, but sometimes. So it was well within the expected range, I assure you.

As for Hyperion, I really encourage you to read the sequel, because you do have a long ways to go to find out what's "really going on." I also really enjoyed Endymion and Rise of Endymion as a way to complete it. Reminds me, I wanted to reread those...
huladavid
Jul. 11th, 2009 05:02 pm (UTC)
Well, I wouldn't say suspicious so much as nowhere near a open as they'd like to believe. When I was involed with Minicon it always seemed that every year there was one group or another that was the paria, and I finally got sick of it and helped form the Finger Pointing & Jeering Committee.
burnunit
Jul. 11th, 2009 05:20 pm (UTC)
A good point—like "open in theory" but could use a little practice. Also, maybe a better term is change-averse.
huladavid
Jul. 11th, 2009 06:10 pm (UTC)
I would not be that kind. I'd say closed/narrow minded.

Part of this I base on what I saw, and partly because of an article I read during the FP&J days. It was from one of the early Minicons and a group of the organizers were on a panel, and someone said that one of the things they wanted to do was--can't recall the correct word--deal or celebrate or talk about "alternate lifestyles". The thing of it was this same guy, while on the High Focus Task Force (or whatever the name was) said just the opposite. Now, there was 20 some years between the two statements, and age could account for a change in view, but I was also struck with thought that one "alternate lifestye"* was more equal than some others.

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*I want to make clear that this wasn't a gay/straight thing. In Rune (right around Minicon 26) they published an article that--in my mind, anyway--"Literary Fandom GOOD" anything else (costuming, media, gaming) was bad. When I'd finished reading I thought to myself, "Well, apparently I'm not a fan." I still went to a few meetings, but that's when I left.
wombat_socho
Jul. 11th, 2009 10:14 pm (UTC)
In all fairness to MNSTF, most of the people that made it like that are no longer there, or no longer hold power. For what my opinion is worth, I see cakmpls and dreamshark as the face of MNSTF these days...mind you, I don't think you ought to start going to meetings again if the Spirit ain't movin' you to do so, but I think it would help if we realized that MNSTF now is not what it was ten years ago when the Board got its collective head jammed up its ass.
huladavid
Jul. 12th, 2009 03:51 am (UTC)
So, Our Dear Friend has left?
wombat_socho
Jul. 12th, 2009 04:48 am (UTC)
I don't think she's active any more, no. We can hope, and obviously cakmpls would know more about it than I would.
wombat_socho
Jul. 11th, 2009 10:10 pm (UTC)
JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS OUT, THEY KEEP DRAGGING ME BACK IN

Anyway, everybody says I have to read Fall of Hyperion. It's on the list.
huladavid
Jul. 12th, 2009 03:51 am (UTC)
Join Us, Joooooinnnnn Uuuuuussssssss! We want your braaaaaaiinses!
wombat_socho
Jul. 12th, 2009 04:47 am (UTC)
imma goin' shoot 'em, shoot 'em in the head...
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