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the morning after the night before

Well, there's not a lot to be said about the McCain campaign's failure that hasn't been said elsewhere. Probably the best summation of the whole wretched mess is the other McCain's post here, which links to an equally good article.

So the time has come for agonizing reappraisal in the GOP ranks. Just about the only thing people seem to agree on is that the "Republican commentariat" (Noonan, Chris Buckley, et al) who turned on Palin and/or publicly backed Obama needs to be shunned, or at least ignored. Their advice got us into this mess, and nothing they say is likely to get us out of it. I suspect we're waiting for another Newt to come along, and it won't be a very long wait.

Felt like hammered shit all day today due to screwed-up sleep cycle, and got to take a vision range exam at the end of the day to boot. Weehu. Now I need to head over to Fox Way to do laundry, since I'm pretty close to broke. :(

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chebutykin
Nov. 6th, 2008 12:54 am (UTC)
Decent articles. One thing I'd add...

Good candidates win elections, and bad candidates lose. John McCain was a bad candidate and he lost.

I'd actually say that John McCain was a pretty good candidate, but the good points that were attractive to moderates back in 2000 were squashed out of him by the machinery of his presidential campaign. It was also pretty clear that the McCain that gave the concession speech last night wasn't the same guy who was running for president.

Of course, that's not the only thing that went wrong, but it was pretty major.
wombat_socho
Nov. 6th, 2008 03:22 am (UTC)
Same guy. Same incoherent ideology. His problem was that he alienated the base for most of his career, and then expected us to go "Oh, okay, all is forgiven!" after he nominated Governor Palin. I don't have the time or inclination at the moment to look it up, but some post-election analysis shows that McCain didn't get as good a turnout as W did in 2004 or 2000; his main problem was that the people he'd spent eight years pissing off felt no need to turn out for him. I always thought the notion that he'd attract a lot of independents and Democrats was phlogiston, and am sorry to see that I was right.

He had me believing for a couple of weeks there, though.
chebutykin
Nov. 6th, 2008 03:46 am (UTC)
I think he would have appealed to independents and Democrats if he'd stuck to his original guns. Problem is, he was waffling between the centrist-appeal McCain and the base-appeal McCain in an attempt to reach both, and only wound up appealing to neither.
wombat_socho
Nov. 6th, 2008 03:50 am (UTC)
I don't buy it. He fell seven million votes short of W's 2004 totals, and the exit polls were showing that he only drew about 15% of Hillary supporters, which were supposed to be (pardon the expression) his great white hope. It was not a very well-run campaign, tbqh, and as the other McCain said, he deserved to lose.

Edited at 2008-11-06 03:50 am (UTC)
chebutykin
Nov. 6th, 2008 04:10 am (UTC)
It was not a very well-run campaign, tbqh, and as the other McCain said, he deserved to lose.

Oh, I agree with that. The net result was a bumbling campaign.
huladavid
Nov. 6th, 2008 03:53 am (UTC)
I seem to remember seeing something like that last night.

Wait, actually I think it was specific to Virgina--that Obama got more votes than...

Oh I Don't Know!

I know this might sound kind of odd, but I seem to remember you being supportive after the last presidential election*, so I'm sorry you didn't have the results you wanted.
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*Or maybe it was my brother. You guys look so much alike...
wombat_socho
Nov. 6th, 2008 03:55 am (UTC)
I know this might sound kind of odd, but I seem to remember you being supportive after the last presidential election*, so I'm sorry you didn't have the results you wanted.
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*Or maybe it was my brother. You guys look so much alike...


And in the right circumstances, we even sound alike. :D

Regardless, thank you.
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