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The new Trekkies?

This weekend I talked briefly with Greg Ketter about Minicon stuff, since I'm going to be running Minicon's anime/video room and appearing on a couple of panels. During the conversation I commented that anime was "the new Star Trek", which got the desired chuckle because we're both old enough to remember what happened to SF fandom when Star Trek came along. In context that was funny/amusing, but in a broader sense it's profoundly wrong..."Yes, but also, no," to quote Admiral Horii from Fire In A Faraway Place.
Observations and philosophizing follow.
Anime fandom, unlike the media fandoms that came before it, is not exclusively rooted in SF/fantasy, and I think this is pretty significant. While it is true that the anime that gets all the attention (Akira, Cowboy Bebop, Inu-Yasha) have strong SF/fantasy elements, there's quite a bit of anime and manga that has no SF or fantasy elements: no magical girls, no robots, no giant suits of powered armor energized by alchemy. Just school kids/adults coping with life and its daily insanities. We're talking Maison Ikkoku, Marmalade Boy, His and Her Circumstances, Ai Yori Aoshi...the list could go on for a couple of pages if I wanted to do the research. So there are anime fans out there who have little or no interest in fantasy or SF, because the medium isn't exclusive to those genres any more than TV and film are.
Anime fandom seems like a weird cross between normal SF/fantasy fandom and media fandom...most anime fans seem to be mainly interested in cosplay and the dealer's room, in that order, and not so much in panels. That lines them up with media fans. On the other hand, there's also a strong antipathy for the kind of "corporate" convention that media fans are apparently willing to accept (CreationCons, frex) with much hostility being expressed towards A-kon and the idea that we're charging $50 at the door for Anime Detour so we can line our own pockets. (As if!) There's a lot of support for fanart in all its forms, not just fanfic: fansubs have long been a part of the anime scene, and there's also a lot of fanart being exhibited. Anime fandom also has a lot of crossover with console gaming, which is not too surprising considering that popular games from Nintendo, Sega and others have been made into anime while the reverse is also true, with Ranma 1/2 and Inu-Yasha fighting games being avalable. So, you see a lot of Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts costumes in the cosplay along with more widely-known characters from popular anime series.
Another weird spin on this is that while with previous media fandoms you had an underlying base of written SF and fantasy, the reverse is true with anime fandom. Even though the source manga for anime exist before the anime in Japan (with notable exceptions such as Revolutionary Girl Utena) in many cases the anime comes out in America and only after the anime is successful does the manga appear. Yes, of course there are exceptions, but for the most part the anime comes first and then the manga, in a reversal of the "normal" pattern.
There's a lot of interesting cultural stuff to be examined here, if a sociologist was interested. Much could be made of the fact that unlike SF, which in many ways is uniquely American (and please, don't lecture me about colonials like Stanislaw Lem, John Brunner, et al), anime injects a whole raft of different cultural assumptions into the consciousness of its viewers. Anime has hundreds of years of separate history behind it, filtered through the mindset of a modern society that hasn't come to terms with its role in World War Two or the Sino-Japanese War that preceded it; a modern society that underwent an abrupt and violent transition from feudalism to German-style monarchy and then another equally violent transition to parliamentary democracy at the hands of American general Douglas MacArthur. What kind of effect does seeing the United States through this ambiguous lens have on high-school kids? Do the different roles of men and women in anime's depiction of Japanese society affect how male and female otaku see and treat each other?
A lot of food for thought. It's going to be interesting, watching this at close range over the next few years.

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chibitoaster
Mar. 21st, 2005 10:53 pm (UTC)
do they have an artist alley at minicon?

:D
wombat_socho
Mar. 21st, 2005 11:22 pm (UTC)
I'm not really sure. I rather doubt it...the webpage only mentions the art show.
433
Mar. 21st, 2005 11:51 pm (UTC)
They haven't in the past. We at CONvergence are planning an area for comic artists to hang out and show people their stuff at this year's con.
wombat_socho
Mar. 22nd, 2005 04:51 am (UTC)
So there you go...and their price structure is pretty much the same as ours.
michaellee
Mar. 22nd, 2005 03:38 am (UTC)
the new trekkies
actually, my experience is that many media fans are frustrated by the Corporate (Creation) Cons as well -- though some times there is little choice, and the financial risks for fan-run media conventions are often even higher than other types of conventions, as so many of the actors require appearance fees.

I don't think it is a direct parallel, but I think there is some use in the comparison, especially if you don't want to go down the mistake of starting a massive division between anime fans and other sf fans. And it's difficult because there are lots of references between the two that just don't cross -- I'm not a big anime fan, so there are lots of references that might come up that I just don't get.

It's possible that anime fandom is more comparable to comics fandom than media fandom, actually...

wombat_socho
Mar. 22nd, 2005 04:55 am (UTC)
Re: the new trekkies
I'm definitely not trying to start a split between anime/manga fans and SF/fantasy fandom - in fact we have done our best to promote CONvergence and Diversicon to our members, because we think there's something at both conventions for a lot of them.

As for media conventions...I've always been bemused by them. I understand why actors and actresses ask for appearance fees, but something about the concept still seems wrong to me, just like the notion of charging extra for certain events at the convention.
tokenfanboy
Mar. 23rd, 2005 11:51 pm (UTC)
Re: the new trekkies
Creation Conventions are EVIL! I'm glad they stopped coming here and hopefully they will die out completely soon.
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