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I used be Sad, but I'm Rabid now.

Well, that went about as well as it could have, if you were one of the Old Guard of Fandom, determined to destroy the Hugos in order to save them, or one of Vox Day's Dread Ilk, who've been waiting for an excuse to nuke the Hugos and sow the smoking ruins with (radioactive) salt.
tl;dr: a block of about 2500 members voted No Award for every category dominated by the Sad Puppy/Rabid Puppy nominees, which meant that half the written fiction categories got No Award, plus both Editor categories and the Related Works category.

If you, like me, were hoping to see some rationality and adult behavior out of the Hugo balloting, you were cruelly disappointed. Not only did the assembled Worldcon members cheer for each No Award vote, they smugly went out on Twitter and elsewhere and BOASTED about their accomplishment, thus proving themselves beyond a shadow of a doubt to be the hypocritical, politics-obsessed liars Larry Correia had accused them of being four years ago. Not satisfied with having destroyed the village in order to save it, according to a tweet from Charles Stross, they're going to "fix" the "problem with voting" that forced them to do this. Yeah, "fix", like the way the vet fixes your dog or cat. Some of them didn't even wait until Sunday; apparently a bunch of folks whined about Daddy Warpig's tweets in the #HugoAward feed, with the result that he couldn't publicly tweet and you couldn't retweet his private tweets. Which availed the SJWs nought, since a bunch of his followers found ways to get his private tweets into the feed anyway.

Well, we'll be back next year. KC is a lot more accessible than Spokane, and anything done at this year's business meeting has to be confirmed next year. If the CHORFs brought 2500-3000 votes to the con this year, we'll have to do better. And then we'll burn the fucker down. Vox was right. Mike was right. The SJWs want to make what used to be a mark of honor into an empty and meaningless joke? Sure. I'll help finish the job you CHORFs started.


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Aug. 23rd, 2015 10:22 am (UTC)
im glad to see all the stats are online. also the vote counts for nom #s
Aug. 23rd, 2015 08:35 pm (UTC)
It was bitterly amusing to see that on the Sasquan web page, they originally deleted all the categories where NO AWARD had been voted. On the official Hugo Awards web page, they're still missing.

Edited at 2015-08-23 09:29 pm (UTC)
Aug. 23rd, 2015 04:28 pm (UTC)
How is "burning the fucker down" any different than "distroy[ing] the Hugos to save it"? (I'd say that this is 80% curiosity and 20% push back.)

Edited at 2015-08-23 04:29 pm (UTC)
Aug. 23rd, 2015 08:33 pm (UTC)
Sasquan was the last chance for WSFS and the CHORFs to prove they meant what they said when they claimed the Hugos were still an award by the fans to the best SF/F of the year. Instead, they did everything they accused the Puppies of: stuffed the ballot box by buying memberships -allegedly for other people, but who really knows?- and voting a NO AWARD slate for every category where the nominees all came from the Sad Puppy/Rabid Puppy "slates".* They lied, bragged about lying, and did their little victory dance at having achieved something not done in the entire history of the Hugos - up to this point, there had been five No Award votes in the entire history of the awards, and now they've tied that total in ONE YEAR. Because the nominated authors and editors they snubbed weren't Of The Body.

So fine. If that's the way they want to play the game, we can play by their rules too, and make the awards completely worthless. There's some discussion as to whether we want to bother with nominations, or just go straight to voting NO AWARD for the categories that got zeroed this year.

Does this help clarify the difference?

*The Sad Puppies actually crowdsourced their nomination list, doing a "primary" before the nominations to come up with suggestions; Vox Day posted a list of his suggestions for the Rabid Puppies to follow.

Edited at 2015-08-23 09:35 pm (UTC)
Aug. 23rd, 2015 07:02 pm (UTC)
The CHORFs are willing to cut the baby in half. I don't have much motivation to help them with that. Better to let Worldcon resume its spiral down to nonexistence than throw another six figures a year at the concom to prop it up.
Aug. 23rd, 2015 08:41 pm (UTC)
I can understand that point of view, but damn it...if there's a chance that we can take the Hugos back and make them mean what they used to mean, we ought to try. I'm going to give it another year or two before I throw in the towel on it.
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