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Food, poverty, and stuff like that

digex unintentionally ignited some bitchiness on Facebook by posting the pic from this article which compares the cost of buying dinner for two adults and two kids at McDonald's to buying raw materials at the grocery store and cooking dinner yourself. It's not really a straight-up comparison, obviously; the home-cooked meals are chicken/roast potatoes/salad and rice/beans, and just as obviously the value of time isn't taken into account. Anyway, some bunhead from Caltech hurfed a lot of blurf about how this just wasn't possible because poor people had to shop at 7-11 because they didn't have access to real supermarkets or some such, which I called bullshit on because I've been poor and been on food stamps. Maybe you have to ride the bus to the other end of town to do your grocery shopping, but you can get to a supermarket and buy the raw materials. Well, this guy got patronizing and said, well, that's a cute anecdote but what about single mom A living in the Gobi Desert Pasadena, and why are you such a hard-hearted hater of the poor? I replied,
I have been poor, and am poor, and your reluctance to accept that really pisses me off. I'm not saying it's easy, because it isn't, but calling me "clueless" for actually having lived in poverty and clawed my way out of it for a while is really insulting. So in conclusion, GFY.

Here's the thing. Yes, it's hard being poor. It takes a lot of hard work and some lucky breaks to get out of poverty. If you are single and can't cook, your ability to save money on the grocery budget is going to be much tougher. Giving credit where credit is due, while my ex-wife had her shortcomings, she knew how to shop and she knew how to cook* and as a result we were able to eat cheaply but well during those long years early in the marriage when we were on WIC and food stamps. It may not have been that exciting - there was a lot of chicken and rice and zucchini and other stuff that could be raised in the garden, to say nothing of lunchmeat and yogurt from a grocery that specialized in salvage and items just past their sell-by date. We bought the Sunday paper to find out what was going to be on sale and clipped coupons like crazy so we could take advantage of double/triple coupon days. That person holding up the line while he desperately riffled through a fat envelope full of coupons? Yeah. That was me. Scored some serious bargains in those days.

The other half of this is that the tools are there for people who want to learn. I don't know if they still do this, but back when we were drawing WIC and food stamps, we got a USDA-issue cookbook which showed us how to maximize the amount of food we got out of our food stamps. You can go to the library or to used book stores or yard sales and get a copy of The Joy of Cooking or the Betty Crocker cookbook or some damn book that will teach you how to cook if you don't know how. There is Walmart, and co-op food deals like Fare Share that make the dollars stretch further.

But if you're single and illiterate and have a baby/young child to drag around? Good luck, kid.

*P insists she really didn't cook that well, but then P is a foodie. My standards are much lower - once I broke her of the habit of cooking all beef extremely bleeding rare, I had no complaints.


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Jul. 23rd, 2012 02:41 am (UTC)
The time and trouble of using "mass" transit (that is, the system granted to the masses by the liberal elite, so we should thank them) needs to be taken into account.

Every measure taken to increase "fairness" to the poor has the effect of keeping them poor. (The "progressive" tax rate is the classic case-- fining people for working harder.)

You have my deepest respect for beating that system.

Bordering on awe. If the system was not designed specifically to keep people down, I have to wonder what a system that had been would do that isn't already being done.

--One of the things that makes Mickey D's unpopular with the Heroes of the Proletariat is that it gets taurine into the diet of kids in the inner city, thereby allowing formation of new dendrite connections so they can get OUT of the inner city. Ray Kroc did more for black people than all the Harvard liberals who ever lived: he sold them hamburgers.
Jul. 23rd, 2012 02:49 am (UTC)
Thanks, although as I said in the OP I have to give my ex-wife a lot of credit for that. Be interesting to see if I can claw my way out again without a wife....although as a single guy with no children, there's not that much to lose in the way of support from the state once I have a decent job again.

Have to admit I'd never looked at McDonald's that way before, but you're probably right.
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